Problems faced after A-levels

Here I am going to tell you some facts, for the students who want to study in Pakistan after their A-level and want to get admission at some very competitive colleges and universities, like government medical colleges or engineering universities in Pakistan. I figured it out through the experience of some of my friends and people around, who had suffered with some problems while getting admission after their A-levels in Pakistan.

In Pakistan they do not accept the grades obtained in O and A level, they covert the grades obtained by the students into equivalent of matric or FSc respectively. The conversion of the grades is done in such a manner that it reduces the marks of students very low. This harms students a lot when they come down in the ranking while making merit at college or university. To get As’ in O or A-level is not an easy job. It takes a lot of hard work, time, energy, sacrifices and money. and when all this is resulted into low marks, it is really unfair, but students cannot do or say anything as it’s the rule.

I do not know the exact formula of conversion, but as far as I know I can share here, while converting the grades of o-level, 5 subjects are taken into consideration, if all are As’ means you have 5 As’ then your grades will earn 723 marks for those. and in conversion of A-levels 3 subjects are taken, and they can earn maximum of 935 marks against you 3 As’ and 5 As’ of O-level. See now, competition is getting higher and higher every year, consequently, marks and merit. To compete with these marks becomes very tough.

Above mentioned was one very major problem, there is another one, after A-levels, for the preparation of entry tests of medical colleges or engineering universities they have to study all the FSc syllabus. They have to prepare and learn the books in 2 months. Because entry test are designed out of these books. But now I heard from a friend of mine that there is gonna be a separate test for A-Level students.

These are the problems what O and A-level students have to face. So keeping all the facts in consideration, the students who want to study in Pakistan, they should not at least do A-levels. See, person with A-level and other with FSc, at the end both are at the same level at the same place, when they are at any university or college together. At that point there, it doesn’t matter how much hard work or money have you put in, both are found at the same level and both are equal.

41 Comments:

Anonymous said...

so what we have to do after copleting our a-levels

Shahzaib Siddiq said...

@anonymous: well you must start your further studies in the field you chose for your A-Levels.

Madiha Munawar said...

after A-levels you should go for admission at university for under-grad program. if you have excellent grades then you can get admissions at top universities of Pakistan, but if grades are not good then you may get admission at other pvt universities, which may not be very good. you must apply for universities abroad, you can get admission over there with much ease, if you can afford your studies there.

Anonymous said...

What are you people talking about?
I have just completed my A-Levels. I am enrolled in UET Computer Engineering. My Grades: 6 A'(O-Level) and 3 A's(A-Level). Converted marks 915.

About this admission thingy. NUST is worst than UET (atleast it was this year). Exam held a week after A-levels. Most of us flunked, that too, badly. LUMS SSE program was savior for many. However, I felt 2 lacs are too much for asking. 50% scholarship only =(

GIKI is the only institute where A-Level students really get benefited. But again. Too much fees.

I like UET but its boring for me at times. UET should advocate more A-level students here. And the Entry test should have searched for a middle ground between A-level and F.Sc.

Any SPECIFIC queries regarding admissions (Only for A-Levels). Contact me at haider.wiqar@hotmail.com

Madiha Munawar said...

well i think alevel students are most disadvantaged, thats y i came up with this post... there are lots of options for matric/FSc students... look at the marks students are getting nowadays and when alevel students marks are converted they suffer with less marks... so the opportunity is in matric/fsc students' hand that they can be high on merit... and obviously you have to work hard if u really want gem thing... in matric/fsc case the fault is in the whole education system, but they have advantage that ahead they have the same educational system to go for... our education system is very out dated and of under-developed kind but what happens to alevel students, the education they get is far better than local system... so they fall down badly and are hit worst than matric/fsc students...

@ aisha as you talked about nust, matric/fsc students will be facing 2 or three at max, situations like this, and in nust as far as i know a lot of fsc students get admission.... but for alevels students this happens in all institutions when their marks are converted and when entry tests are not from their but fsc syllabus...

anonymous said...

wht abt da new policies which da british council has initiated dat is there is no percentile system anymore!!! wil dat give alevel student any opportunity to get admission easily in good medical colleges???

mohsin said...

there is no such system like..no percentile,
percentile still there,
you can ask from any source............but answer to ur question is that if percentile systen gets closed...so its an big disadvantage to the students of o/a level.

cricketbite said...

and what if we want to study abroad? would A levels in this case be appropriate? And what is the scope of studying abroad after doing inter?

haroon said...

after doing f.s.c or matric studying abroad is useless dude!!
if u did a levels!! and u want to study abroad!!
its the same as doing fsc and joining any university here in pakistan........actually while u r doing a levels!! at the time when u r not even completed with it!! if u got good grades in o levels and as level!! there will be calls and letters coming ur home from abroad universities!!

haroon said...

and whatever U said SHAHZAIB...... dude this all applies for medical universities ... no doubt!! ... but for engineering universities!! if u have got gud grades in the main subjects like for software engineers(PHYSICS, URDU, MATHS AND COMPUTER)for architectural engineer(physics, Urdu, maths and [design and arts])..and blah blah!! now let me explain these briefly!! if u got B in physics B in maths,A in urdu(which is easy)& A in computer(which is the main subject) u'll get admission easily
same goes for architectural engineer...just get an A in the subject u want to go in!! DONt FORget urdu is compulsory!! and
@mohsin!!
DUDE? percentile is over!! and A grade is from 80% to 90% and A* is from 90% to 100% this A* which came after percentile got over is very very helpful for o a level students!! like apply to FAST university they wud prefer u if u got A* in the subject for which u r chosing ur field!!

Ali Abbas said...

yup! the percentile system has been finished and A* has been introduced. i have myself got an A* in mathematics in O level. but I have done my O levels in three sittings. what disadvantages it will have and to waht extent?? somebody guide me plz...

hira said...

hey, where should i apply for dentistry in pakistan after a levels and is urdu compulsory for me aswell.my subjects in a level r phy chem bio & maths.

Shahzaib Siddiq said...

@Hira: You can apply to Fatima Memorial Hospital, Lahore. Its one of the best private colleges for Density.

anila said...

i want to know the equivalncy formula of A level after doing matric....??

Haseeb A. Javed said...

I think another disadvantage of completing O and A Levels in Pakistan and then applying for admission at a university is that FSc equivalence cannot be awarded to the candidate (who has completed O/A Level) until they have taken Urdu, Islamiyat, and Pakistan Studies. As a foreign student in Pakistan with very little knowledge of Urdu or Pakistan, taking these classes is quite tough for me so I have chosen not to take them, but a couple other classes in their stead. Doing this, however, will limit the scope of the universities that I can successfully apply to when the time comes.

Mohammad said...

Hey Everyone.

I'm studying here in Cambridge School Dubai, appeared for 7 IGCSEs; English Urdu Maths Physics Chemistry Biology and IT!
I got a B in English and a B in Urdu, results of the rest Papers are yet to be declared.
My question is how many Alevels should I take for Mechanical Engineering in NUST? Am i eligible to study in NUST if i take Maths Alevels Physics Alevel but Chemistry AS Level in One year?
And will I be treated as an International Student or a National? I'm a Pakistani Passport holder.
I'll be leaving UAE forever after completing my Alevels here. So a little help from you guys will be appreciated.

Thankyou.

drssm said...

i did my olevels and gt a* is islamiyat
A in urdu and B in commerce ..
rest of the subjects result is awaited so can anybody tell me what is the criteria of the colleges like kinnard and lahore for fsc ?
like how many grades and how do they equal the marks with the matric students?

Ahmed Ali Aziz said...

guys could you tell me what is the estimated fee annually for an engineering course at NUST if i have done my a levels

unzila said...

i am in Alevels and my subjects are MATHS,PHY,CHEM,URDY and i have got only 2 As in olevels...and i want to take admission in good university ...just want to know that how much your olevels grades matter ..i mean how many As in olevels are required in pakistani universities...please help. :(

mahnoor said...

I m going to select my field, facing a lot of problems! parents say that matric is gud in Pakistan but i m crazy doing O/A level.. they even allow me to do levelz but comparing matric n FSc there is no scope of A level in Pakistan! main question is that if a person does O/A level n doesn't get enough A's to get a gud scholarship in any university wht wud that person do? Lums university takes 50,000 a month, it is very difficult to even pay 20,000 a month! is there any further option 4 that child? or every hardwork he/she has done is lost?

moonwind said...

what are the requirements needed to make O and A levels equivalence certificate of pakistan if its done from abroad???
HELPPPPPPP!!

Bilal Zafar said...
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Bilal Zafar said...

what shall i do after o levels i took computers field with biology in st.michaels scool in clifton
what is the most helpfull thing for me to do in or out of pakistan????
please help me tell as for what shall i do after 0-A levels for me
@Shahzaib Siddiq

Awais Malik said...

Yar Pleaze som1 help me becoz i hv completed my 1st year at o lev bt now i ma confused that there is no scope for o lev in pak 15%marks are also deducted nd lott f otherz i will live in pakistan forever so pleaz some1 help me dat cn i complete it nd go fr fsc???

Shahid fakhir said...

So what about commerce student? Would they face the same problem?

Owais Dar said...

im owais i have got 2 AS in urdu and pak studies but Bs in in islamiat and add maths................so want to get into engineering should i go for Fsc or A level

CHAOS said...

I totally agree with this article as it summarizes all the difficulties that i am facing right now.Despite the fact that i secured 4 A's in Alevels ,my aggregate marks are just 835,not to mention my o levels (1A,5B,1c,1d).well but that's pure nonsense,Pakistani universities are selecting those candidates who can learn things by heart and narrate it like a parrot(though there are some with strong concepts and clarity of mind).
Furthermore,unlike in FSC,our aggregate marks are dependent on our O levels!
Indeed, it is selective partiality that GOVT is showing for FSC students and denying all the faith and sincerity put in by A levels students

CHAOS said...

All guys who have done or are doing O levels,i will recommend you people to get atleast 5 A's in O levels.Even if you will smash your A levels(get 4 A's),it won't help you much.Your aggregate marks will not be good enough for you to compete with the locals.

Do improve your O levels if you have already given it!

ahmed shehryar said...

hey i did o levels with 2astatrs 4 as and 2 bs.but ihave opted forfsc bcoz in pakistan alevel future sucks

Mohid Moin said...

i have cleared o-lvls and my grades are 4b,s nd 4c,s so can anybody tell me what should be best for my future A-LVLS or FSc ..........
after getting equilancy certificate my overall is 70 percent

Mohid Moin said...

and my subjects are phys chem bio maths eng

Mohammed Akram said...

@mohid,.....didnt you have a ten percent deduction when you got your equiv. certificate? Because i was worried that ten percent are deducted when going from o level into intermediate.

talha said...

hey guys i scored 4A* 3As and a B in my olevel... and currently i am in AS taking maths physics and chem... i need to know about the minimum grades i need to score here in alevels to study abroad... my first priority is to study in an overseas university and then in any pakistani university... my family cant afford much to pay for overseas so what about all that scholorship programs and fee to be paid after getting scholorships in overseas university...
thanks in advance... a proper guyidance will be greatly appreciated

Hamail pasha said...

Hello! my query is that i have done my o`levels with 6 A`s and now i am stuck to choose between a`levels and inter.Unfortunately i don`t possess such a wealthy hand to afford being study abroad and looking at this post it made even worst for me to end up.Help please!!!

mustafa ali said...

iam doing alevel and after it i will go towards acca well i think for doing acca alevel is the best choice to be done am i right..??

Ozymandias said...

Come on doing fsc is an option ONLY if u are ABSOLUTELY sure that u want to do medical or engineering in pakistan otherwise if after doing fsc u decide to do something else or want to go abroad or dislike medical or engineering then ur SUNK because overseas universities dont give a DAMN about fsc or matric and will not even glance at ANY candidate without alevel and if u dont perform VERY well in fsc because there are a LOT of people who are flawless at rote learning then forget outside even inside pakistan u will be worse off than alevel students!

tahaa qamar said...

I got 1A 1B 6c in o levels ...so these grades are gud enough to have admission in gud universities?

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Abdul muqeet said...

please guide me i have done A1 and i got hell bad grades :( now anyone please tell me so shud i go for fsc or alevels repeat ??

zawar zafar said...

What would be better after doing olevels if i wanted to do
App developing

Maryam Tallat said...

I got 3A's 3B's and 2C's in my o'levels exam. I want make sure that i get into a good engineering uni so decided to go for F.sc than A'levels. I appeared for two of my five o'levels exams in oct/nov for which the results will come out in jan/dec (for which i'm expecting an A and a C). Due to this i was unable to get enrolled for F.Sc pre engineering. My one year is already wasted. Can you please please please tell me if i should start studying f.sc or should i reappear in the previous o'level exams to score a merit! I really want to get into a recognised university (like air university). Please reply to this as i have no idea what to do.

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